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Turtles All The Way Down

Philosopher, musician, filmmaker, entrepreneur Jake Cenk Koseleci has deep conversations in his home studio with a wide array of guests on the biggest and smallest questions about art, science, technology, life, the universe and everything.
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Dec 2, 2016

Michael Anton Dila

In this podcast Jake speaks with Michael Dila, designer, innovator, strategist, builder and provocateur. Throughout this discussion, Jake and Michael explore the theme of “intelligence” and the schism between the intellectual segment and the emerging populist movement surrounding Trump's campaign. Dila discusses the divide between reason and anti-reason and what this means for a manipulable society in an increasingly complex world where notions of trust and dependency are skewed. Michael expresses a sense of urgency in coming up with solutions to reorganize our purposes for the survival of the planet for future generations.

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